RTEMS IRC Log, 01 Nov 2010

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sebhubgood morning02:32
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kiwichrisHi Joel15:48
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sebhubgood morning02:49
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DrJoelkiwichris: there?20:03
kiwichrisyeah hi20:03
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DrJoelI am at the office if you want to chat.20:03
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kiwichrisdukeleto, are you about ?02:02
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sebhubgood morning02:51
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kiwichrissebhub, hi03:33
sebhubhi03:44
kiwichrissebhub, are you able to tell me now much code space the USB stack takes ?04:05
sebhubon arm thumb less than 200kByte04:05
kiwichrisThanks. How much RAM ?04:06
sebhubI don't know the exact figures04:06
kiwichrisRough on the high side if possible :)04:06
kiwichrisbig guess more than welcome04:07
sebhubyou need 4 usb tasks (each 4k stack), rest is on the heap04:07
kiwichris100K ? 250K ? 1M ?04:07
sebhubit is possible to determine the exact figures, but i had not time to implement the malloc statistics04:07
sebhubless than 1M04:07
kiwichrisFantastic and many thanks.04:08
kiwichrisOh is EHCI supported ?04:08
sebhubyes, i tested it with mpc831304:09
kiwichrisThanks04:09
sebhubalthough the big endian support was hacked04:09
kiwichrisBy you ?04:09
sebhubyes, i circumvented the bus_space api with some hard coded defines04:10
kiwichrisOk. Anything worth sending upstream ?04:10
sebhubno, the big endian support is in freebsd via the bus_space api04:10
kiwichrisOk04:10
sebhubthe changes are pretty minor04:11
sebhubIndex: ehci.h04:11
sebhub===================================================================04:11
sebhub--- ehci.h      (revision 213272)04:11
sebhub+++ ehci.h      (working copy)04:11
sebhub@@ -358,26 +358,52 @@04:11
rtemsLoggersebhub: Error: "@" is not a valid command.04:11
sebhub } ehci_softc_t;04:11
sebhub04:11
sebhub #define        EREAD1(sc, a)   bus_space_read_1((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (a))04:11
sebhub+#ifndef __rtems__04:12
sebhub #define        EREAD2(sc, a)   bus_space_read_2((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (a))04:12
sebhub #define        EREAD4(sc, a)   bus_space_read_4((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (a))04:12
sebhub+#else /* __rtems__ */04:12
sebhub+#define        EREAD2(sc, a)   le16toh(bus_space_read_2((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (a)))04:12
sebhub+#define        EREAD4(sc, a)   le32toh(bus_space_read_4((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (a)))04:12
sebhub+#endif /* __rtems__ */04:12
sebhub #define        EWRITE1(sc, a, x)                                               \04:12
sebhub            bus_space_write_1((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (a), (x))04:12
sebhub+#ifndef __rtems__04:12
sebhub #define        EWRITE2(sc, a, x)                                               \04:12
sebhub            bus_space_write_2((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (a), (x))04:12
sebhub #define        EWRITE4(sc, a, x)                                               \04:12
sebhub            bus_space_write_4((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (a), (x))04:12
sebhub+#else /* __rtems__ */04:12
sebhub+#define        EWRITE2(sc, a, x)                                               \04:12
sebhub+           bus_space_write_2((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (a), htole16(x))04:12
sebhub+#define        EWRITE4(sc, a, x)                                               \04:12
sebhub+           bus_space_write_4((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (a), htole32(x))04:12
sebhub+#endif /* __rtems__ */04:12
sebhub #define        EOREAD1(sc, a)                                                  \04:12
sebhub            bus_space_read_1((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (sc)->sc_offs+(a))04:12
sebhub+#ifndef __rtems__04:12
sebhub #define        EOREAD2(sc, a)                                                  \04:12
sebhub            bus_space_read_2((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (sc)->sc_offs+(a))04:12
sebhub #define        EOREAD4(sc, a)                                                  \04:12
sebhub            bus_space_read_4((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (sc)->sc_offs+(a))04:12
sebhub+#else /* __rtems__ */04:12
sebhub+#define        EOREAD2(sc, a)                                                  \04:12
sebhub+           le16toh(bus_space_read_2((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (sc)->sc_offs+(a)))04:12
sebhub+#define        EOREAD4(sc, a)                                                  \04:12
sebhub+           le32toh(bus_space_read_4((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (sc)->sc_offs+(a)))04:12
sebhub+#endif /* __rtems__ */04:12
sebhub #define        EOWRITE1(sc, a, x)                                              \04:12
sebhub            bus_space_write_1((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (sc)->sc_offs+(a), (x))04:12
sebhub+#ifndef __rtems__04:12
sebhub #define        EOWRITE2(sc, a, x)                                              \04:12
sebhub            bus_space_write_2((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (sc)->sc_offs+(a), (x))04:12
sebhub #define        EOWRITE4(sc, a, x)                                              \04:12
sebhub            bus_space_write_4((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (sc)->sc_offs+(a), (x))04:12
sebhub+#else /* __rtems__ */04:13
sebhub+#define        EOWRITE2(sc, a, x)                                              \04:13
sebhub+           bus_space_write_2((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (sc)->sc_offs+(a), htole16(x))04:13
sebhub+#define        EOWRITE4(sc, a, x)                                              \04:13
sebhub+           bus_space_write_4((sc)->sc_io_tag, (sc)->sc_io_hdl, (sc)->sc_offs+(a), htole32(x))04:13
sebhub+#endif /* __rtems__ */04:13
sebhub #ifdef USB_EHCI_BIG_ENDIAN_DESC04:13
sebhub /*04:13
kiwichrisWhy __rtems__ and not endian ?04:16
sebhubI hacked this only to get it working on my evaluation board04:17
kiwichrisOk.04:17
kiwichrisAgain thanks for this.04:17
kiwichrisI am off for the night.04:17
sebhubcu04:18
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zwjsebhub;hi ,the past month i am busy with study , so there is little time for me to rtems09:20
zwjsorry for long time disappeared09:21
zwjand about the merge of sysinit, what can i help ?09:23
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* DrJoel waves to kiwichris 17:19
kiwichrisDrJoel, hello17:19
DrJoelhaven't heard from David Maxwell.. left message on his phone17:20
DrJoelam nibbling at the clang reports :-D17:20
kiwichrisOh well. I have a plan to remove the local_table from the object information table17:20
kiwichrisThe local_table is actually just a bool or a single bit to say the object is opened17:21
kiwichrisGiven an index I can check the object_block is valid and if valid compute effective address of the object17:22
DrJoelthat will impact objectget.c and EVERY directive.  be careful on performance17:22
kiwichrisIt is a bit look up and an address calc. It is a little more but only a few instructions as the compiler should be able to figure out decent code. The saving is to lower the local_table from 4 bytes to 1 bit17:23
kiwichrisHow's your time travel going ? ;)17:24
DrJoelthat's good.. probably want a run of tmtests on psim as baseline to compare with.  it measures instructions17:24
kiwichrisYeah I agree17:24
DrJoelnot well.. was out of office today for sick kid dr trip17:24
kiwichrisWould confdefs.h need updating ?17:25
kiwichrisI will commit I current changes. Do you have something that inspects the test run output for ok or not ok ?17:25
DrJoelcheck_endof in rtems-testing and then a hand compare on tmtests for performance changes17:26
kiwichrisHow do you use it ?17:27
DrJoelsis *.exe17:27
DrJoelcheck_endof17:27
DrJoelpsim *.exe17:27
DrJoelcheck_endof17:27
kiwichrisOk.17:27
DrJoelit will report which tests do not have "END OF" messages17:27
kiwichrisIt looks in the log file ?17:28
DrJoelnot too advanced .. autotest is needed17:28
DrJoelyep17:28
kiwichrisYeah. Been thinking about that. I suspect we may need to think about where the output goes etc but that can all happen when the change happens17:28
DrJoelwe have to be able to compare the expected vs actual but the tests can be easily redirected if need be.  It is from the main sim script17:29
kiwichrisYes this is important. I suspect we will need a way to define specific fields in the expected output that can vary17:30
kiwichriseg ids17:30
DrJoelright17:30
DrJoelFWIW http://www.aivosto.com/project/help/pm-complexity.html17:30
DrJoela description of cyclomatic complexity and risk.. impact on testability and maintainability17:31
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kiwichrisInteresting to match these results against commit stats17:32
DrJoelyes that would be interesting17:33
DrJoelIt is interesting that "scary" code has high CC17:34
kiwichrisI suspect a couple of results. High complexity and not commit changes, ie code works and high complexity and high commits, code needs to be refactored17:34
kiwichrisHows does object information extend rate :)17:35
DrJoelhttp://www.rtems.org/ftp/pub/rtems/people/joel/metrics/cccc/cccc.html17:37
DrJoelcccc looks very confused :-D17:40
kiwichrisYeah I am trying to understand it17:40
DrJoel1417:44
DrJoelhttp://www.rtems.org/ftp/pub/rtems/people/joel/metrics/pmccabe.txt17:44
DrJoelfrom another tool. :-D17:44
DrJoelJennifer has a wrapper for this to convert the output to html with the sortable tables.. will run it on RTEMS and post it when she is happy17:44
DrJoelthat will make it possible to sort on complexity17:45
kiwichrisThese look like better results. The other results had issues17:45
DrJoelkillinfo.c 3617:45
DrJoelthreadijnitialize.c 3517:45
kiwichrisRFS eval for make 2917:46
kiwichrisThe eval functions are the hardest part of a file system and it seems to show this17:46
DrJoel222271113131score/src/heapextend.c(113): _Heap_Extend17:46
kiwichris42572109136libfs/src/rfs/rtems-rfs-link.c(110): rtems_rfs_unlink17:47
DrJoelI think it is a good measure of understandability and testability.. papers show it is correlated to "bad fix probability"17:47
DrJoelouch!17:47
DrJoelare there 24 conditionals in there?17:47
kiwichris242572109136libfs/src/rfs/rtems-rfs-link.c(110): rtems_rfs_unlink17:47
kiwichris232775269193libfs/src/imfs/imfs_eval.c(269): IMFS_evaluate_for_make17:48
kiwichrisIMFS and RFS match with this code. I wish a simpler API could be found for this.17:48
DrJoelyep..17:48
DrJoelwell time for me to head home.. catch you tomorrow17:48
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sebhubhello07:20
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dr__housegood morning09:05
DrJoelmorning.  It was great to see you at GWU09:14
dr__houseDrJoel: It was my dream come true :)09:15
DrJoelyou need better dreams then LOL09:15
dr__houseDrJoel: LOL :)09:16
zwjDrJoel:09:33
zwjhi09:33
DrJoelzwj: hello!09:34
zwjabout the work of merge the sysinit code, what can i do for it09:35
DrJoelgood question.. kiwichris .. sebhub09:35
DrJoelsebhub: ping09:36
DrJoelkiwichris: ping09:36
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zwjin the past months i am busy with study, now i have free time for open source09:36
DrJoelzwj: completely understandable.. now is time to return and get code in. :-D09:37
zwjyes,i think the code of sysinit should be updated09:38
DrJoelI can show you how to run clang (static analyzer) on it to highlight any oddities09:42
zwjcan the clang show the change of code ?09:45
DrJoelno.. it highlights potiential issues that gcc won't find09:49
DrJoelhttp://www.rtems.org/ftp/pub/rtems/people/joel/clang-analyzer/2010-09-28-1/09:49
DrJoelthat's a run on RTEMS09:49
zwjao, i will see it09:50
zwjin what area we will use clang? to find some issues of code?09:54
DrJoelthat's pretty much it.  Like Coverity Scan.  Just finds issues before they become things users report that we have to debug. :-D09:54
DrJoeldo you have an account to view the coverity results?09:55
zwji think i donont have09:55
zwjin the bugzia09:55
zwj?09:55
DrJoelhold on.. I will create one.. special account for this.. not an open tool09:55
zwjok09:56
DrJoelcoverity scan does a lot of analysis. can find some pretty obscure things09:57
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dukeletoCongrats on getting into GCI!12:16
DrJoelwell you guys did to .. congratulations.. only 20 orgs!12:25
dukeletoDrJoel: yep! I am very excited12:26
DrJoelI am excited and concerned at the same time LOL12:27
dukeletoyes. concern is growing.12:29
dukeletothe student period starts a few days before thanksgiving12:29
dukeletoshould be interesting12:29
DrJoelYep. I need to start a spreadsheet of tasks so they can be bulk imported12:31
dukeletoindeed. they have a csv bulk import12:41
DrJoelstarting to work on that now.  Hand-writing html links inside a spreadsheet cell sucks12:54
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verm__wow so there is a channel23:05
verm__i just thought of joining now on chance.23:05
verm__<-amar from ntp23:11
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